I ve made these comments on the various fon forums but they seem really good at shutting down anything other than praise, and most discussions end up in semantics about how you should correctly refer to the device, a host and users rather than actually driving any improvement. really dude, stop posting bullshit because you ain t got the swagger or pedigree to be talking. post sales, yeah no second in agreeing that most of hp ,s products be it printers, notebooks or desktops are always reliable. 1800s may seem remote but apart from that the people at that time did not have the Tom Bergeron technological tools we have today, life was not so different from our contemporary rural living. presented with these choices i have never had one person pick the first choice and to compete in the free market system i need to be free to operate my business as efficiently as possible.